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  Why is sex suddenly pure and holy after you receive a marriage certificate?

  by doubtful in

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  ...but gross and detestable any time before marriage.

  if a witness couple who are engaged to one another, decide to express their love toward each other by engaging in sexual intercourse just weeks or even days before they're officially married, they are considered to be loathsome, unclean people.

  the witness girl would be seen by others in the hall as a dirty little whore...and the guy would just be thought of as a horny young man who couldn't keep it in his pants.

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  Luo bou to

  There is nothing holy about a marriage where the man sexually abuses his wife and no certificate can make it so
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  The only organization that God directs.

  by man in black in

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  during the decades in which i was a jw, so many times i heard comments about how the wtbts is the only organization that god is directing here on earth today.

  in fac there was a popular story in the late 70's about how the us army once came to a district assembly to observe, and learn how to better organize large groups of people.

  ( i remember the speaker commenting on how many attendee's thought the tribulation was starting because the army was there.

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  If God is directing this Org ... With their track record.... Either they're not listening or God doesn't know what he is doing
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  When did the WT say that homosexual extramarital affairs were not grounds for divorce?

  by doubtful in

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  i've heard it said that the watchtower printed an official stance on what qualifies as "adultery" at one point in the 1970s??

  they said that a woman was not free to divorce her husband if her husband had sex with another man or with an animal, as such sexual relations did not constitute "becoming one flesh"... apparently vaginal intercourse is the only means of fusing two human bodies together.... what watchtower is such a doctrine found in?

  is it in the wt cd-rom?

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  It's also covered in the old aid book the one replaced by the Insight volumes

  I remember reading... I think it was in a Ques from readers ...Where they spoke of those who had been df based on this wrong understanding of pornea..... The wt said in effect to forget about it let it ride ....I remember thinking at the time that the Elders should have been told to follow up all the wrongful disfellowshipings and try to redress this wrong But as we know now the WT never takes responsibility for its actions
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  What was your "aha" moment....

  by botchtowersociety in

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  ....that made you decide to leave the botchtower society?

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  I was content as a witness until I was DF for not forcing my daughter to have the child of her rapist. I continued to attend meetings for 8 months After one Elder counseled my 11 year old son on his talk He said to him. That he would help him with his talks now because he no longer had a father. That did not faze me I just told my son that the man was being ignorant

  I kept thinking of the scripture about loving your enemies "Am I now the enemy" I asked myself If not why am I being treated so badly. Not one word of encouragement from the Elders during that 8 months I was treated like shit After the 8months they wanted to talk to me about reinstatement. I refused You have to be repentant. Right ! I was not They said I no longer had a relationship with God after I was DF. That was not true. I never believed he had abandoned me.

  So I started attending church where I found love and acceptance not condemnation I always remember what one Church said when I told him that the witnesses think your all hypocrites . He said "come right in your welcome" and I thought "yes we are all sinners no one has made it. Didn't Jesus befriend sinners and condemn the self righteous" Anyway I made friends with Jan Groenveld subscribed to Randy's periodical and researched the basis of my faith in Jehovah's so called Organization. The evidence was overwhelming. I was a true believer Now that I knew it was a lie Not the truth I could not go back even though I realized what it could and did cost me ie: loss of friends family and marriage. I could not live a lie

  "AHA" moment No just a gradual realization I had been deceived
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  Boy Denied Communion Because of Cerebral Palsy

  by whereami in

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  can't you just feel the love!!!

  !kevin castro's grandmother calls priest's offer of annointing of sick 'offensive' .

  a catholic church turned away 8-year-old kevin castro of floresville, texas, from his first communion because he had cerebral palsy, according to the boy's family.. when the rev.

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  If the boy was incapable of understanding. Whose desire to have the boy confirmed was it ?
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  If You Could Choose The Manner Of Your Death...What Would It Be?

  by Was New Boy in

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  most people really don't want to think about it....but if you could choose, how would like to leave the planet?.

  going out with a bang could be fun..... dying as a martyr?.

  dying as a hero saving someone?.

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  Euthanasia I want to make that decision A rational decision not driven by emotion. Simply enjoyed the movie what's next Bye Hope to meet you again
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  Birthday Warning

  by Luo bou to in

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  it's my birthday today, i'm 63. i know your thrilled to hear that and are likely to party hard with wild abandonment, but please be careful not to worship me.

  i am only a creature.

  it's ok to worship the gb though.

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  Luo bou to

  So many want to chop off my head but the law of the land won't let you. Naa naa na na na
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  Birthday Warning

  by Luo bou to in

  1. jw
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  it's my birthday today, i'm 63. i know your thrilled to hear that and are likely to party hard with wild abandonment, but please be careful not to worship me.

  i am only a creature.

  it's ok to worship the gb though.

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  Hey This is great Your witty replies are crack en me up (pissing myself laughing ) I think it's so healthy for us to be able to laugh at the inane reasoning of the WT. God will kill me if I celebrate my birthday. Yeah right I call bullshit. Do I hear any ayes?
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  Birthday Warning

  by Luo bou to in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's my birthday today, i'm 63. i know your thrilled to hear that and are likely to party hard with wild abandonment, but please be careful not to worship me.

  i am only a creature.

  it's ok to worship the gb though.

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  Luo bou to

  It's my birthday today, I'm 63. I know your thrilled to hear that and are likely to party hard with wild abandonment, but please be careful not to worship me. I am only a creature. It's OK to worship the GB though. Oh! I almost forget. Don't chop anyone's head off or kill the baker. It gives birthdays a bad name
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  What do Jehovah's Witnesses do about compulsory voting in Australia?

  by slimboyfat in

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  what are they advised to do?

  do they attend polling booths and somehow register "neutrality" or are they allowed to be absent altogether?

  have politicians or the media ever addressed the issue?

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  Luo bou to

  You're sent a please explain notice for failing to turn up at the polling booth. If your excuse is not accepted you are fined I think it is or was $50 I would use the against my conscience as a JW excuse and was never fined I voted at the last election and I am happy to say I didn't vote for the backstabbing bitch that is ruining the country now Not my fault I didn't vote for her